Curse

cellardweller · Apr 02, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

/signed
We're going to take hero+hench anyway so it makes no difference to all those crying about "the community".

thedeadwalk! · Apr 02, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30

/Signed

What's wrong with giving people the option to do so?

jshrimp3 · Apr 02, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

/signed for all the reasons that have already been stated.

cloude1080 · Apr 02, 2007, 09:29 AM // 09:29

/super signed

I normally play with humans, if they want to take me in the party. However, I can never find any1 that actually wanna do full UW/FOW quests with. Nor I can find anyone taking my poor monk into the cruel DoA either. Even if Anet doesnt give us full heroes party, please give us the damned henchies, they are just fine (at least they dont disconnect, blah blah).

Before anyone starts the crap about getting into a guild, I dont have that much time for guilds, they always kick me after a week not being on. And I have real life stuffs to take care of.

TheLichMonky · Apr 02, 2007, 09:33 AM // 09:33

/Not signed they are they so you have options -_-

MithranArkanere · Apr 02, 2007, 01:33 PM // 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by cloude1080

/super signed

I normally play with humans, if they want to take me in the party. However, I can never find any1 that actually wanna do full UW/FOW quests with. Nor I can find anyone taking my poor monk into the cruel DoA either. Even if Anet doesnt give us full heroes party, please give us the damned henchies, they are just fine (at least they dont disconnect, blah blah).

Before anyone starts the crap about getting into a guild, I dont have that much time for guilds, they always kick me after a week not being on. And I have real life stuffs to take care of.

Then get a better guild.

In ours you can be out a Month an you won't get kiked, and you canstay aot for much more if you explain about it.

There are many kinds of guilds... to have fun, to waste time, to gain faction, PvE only... find one that suits you.

Ferret · Apr 02, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47

/signed

My reason vary, but mostly as has been said, there are less people around these days. Some areas or missions you go to have NO other players in them and it would be nice to create a team of your own, without relying on henchies. Despite this, i have gone back to try some of the Tyrian missions with heroes and henchies and they are much easier than before heores.

Also, it would be nice to mix it up abit more with the heroes you use by having more spaces open.

Though, as a final comment, it is kinda possible to have a 'all hero' party if you have 2 players (via a guildie maybe) in every area of all 3 chapters (and yes, i know 2 players isnt strictly 'all hero', but it is close).

kc2000ss · Apr 02, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Totally signed/

I think we need this in order to be able to complete some of the harder areas in the older games(think titans Quest).
When I go to some of these areas there are no parties to pug with and henchies are pretty useless.

I also think along the same vein that once GW:2 comes out all exclusive areas of GW:1 should be opened to all to maintain interest

I completley enjoyed open fow/uw weekend Ty very much Anet!!

GODh · Apr 02, 2007, 02:01 PM // 14:01

/signed

Having this option doesnt mean you have to use it... when you can find a nice team with human players, then go for it. But there are already many areas with hardly any human players (especially in Prophecies) and not everyone have a big helpful guild.

I dont see much problems with this, other than things may be a lot easier than having to use those (often) stupid henchmen.

max gladius · Apr 02, 2007, 02:08 PM // 14:08

/notsigned

Heroes really cut down on teamwork and helping other ppl..... its called an MMORPG for a reason.... the idea of heroes was brought about to replace henches with something the players can control / build to their likeing.... but instead of replacing the henches, it has done more for replacing other humans... now everywhere u go, u have 2-3 ppl and 5-6 heroes on a team...

i too am guilty of this, and i am not pointing any fingers... but why have 80 ppl in a guild if u need 2 or 3 for missions and such.... yet another reason why i am glad that DOA and such heroes cannot use light bringer skill.....

it has turned the game... there is so much less interaction between ppl its amazing... i too hate noobs who think they r gods... and all that... but there are alot of eager to learn players out there they dont get the opportunity to grow and learn because noone is helping anyone these days...

hahah also...
/signed

I hate henches!!!!!

Surena · Apr 02, 2007, 02:22 PM // 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kha

This game is an online multiplayer game. It should stay focused on that. Making it too much single player just ruins the game. If you want to play by yourself without worrying about disconnects, idiots, etc, then play an offline single player game.

Why should I have to worry, why tolerate idiots or accept them?

I play PvP for interaction with other human beings, I don't want that in PvE however. I don't want to suffer from the ringings "Healing Breeze" inflicts to my ears, I don't want people to spam their weapon-sets (I am wielding my yet to grow-out d...) or use just bad skill-sets, flame each other ("wait or I won't heal!!!"). I am not an egoist (even though every sentence starts with "I") but I would prefer a full hero team to anything else anyday, and if I don't want that I ask my friend-list.

You can't blame Heroes for the downfall of human interaction for it's people who make choices and decide not to group with others. Most PUGs I encountered didn't even have fully-developed heroes and 95% of them disliked adding them and even preferred to wait 30+ mins for real players.

It's just a different playstyle having nothing to do with social competence.

OMGsplosion · Apr 02, 2007, 02:25 PM // 14:25

/signed -------------------------------------

Draikin · Apr 02, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37

/signed

Like others already said, it's not like this would have any effect on PuGs since most people who use heroes will now just use henches to complete the group. The extra heroes will just replace henches and not real players. Anyone who wants to join a PuG can still do so and anyone who doesn't want to invest in buying equipment for their heroes can still use henches.

Caith-Avar · Apr 02, 2007, 02:39 PM // 14:39

/signed
It's about options - although I usually play with humans (mostly guildies, alliance members and a few friends I made on my "good mood days") or in those "default" configurations like two players with three heroes each or four players with one each.
And if I have to catch up with a group of guildies that has played ahead or I want to capture an elite in some odd location, I'll just fill up with appropriate henchies.

*lowering voice to conspiracy-level* But, people, keep in mind... Tahlkora, Dunkoro and co. are quick with their fingers... they take away all your good loot. Believe me.

*coughs* Well... I don't exactly need this option. Don't know if I'd use it, were it available. But it's about options. And it may well be used to make a party of 2+6 with heroes from one player, because the other isn't comfortable with heroes.
I don't see much against it.

Pkest · Apr 02, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

/signed

I've worked hard to equip them and level them only to be limited to taking 3 at a time.

legion_rat · Apr 02, 2007, 05:28 PM // 17:28

heres the main problem with henches. the warriors, whats their elite? Charge. wow thats useless. If i am going to use heros/henches in say the ring of fire area. i want them to be as useful as they can be. Also there are missions that you cant find people in anymore. they are dead areas. While my guild is fairly large (70) they arent always playing when i am, or they are in DOA or somewhere else. The main reason I want hero (not to control all those skill) is that they would actually be useful. the healer henches skills are minimal at best, the mesmers are useless in the extreme. ALL of the necro henches are worthless. So either give henches useful skills or give us our heros. As someone else said with GW:EN we will have 25 heros and only get to use 3 at a time, what a waste. The nay sayers to this said that it made it more of a single person game and less MMO. I have payed the cash for all 3 games (soon to be 4) I love GW but it is hard to get a group for everything you want to do. With all heros, some of us might actually stand a chance in DOA. As a sin, i cannot get a group, at all. With heros i might be able to at least try to play there. Not only that but some of us would take heros into UW/FOW. It would be more casual. no rage quiters, and we could go at our own pace. So to the people that mentioned i should play another game, I do fine with GW i have 19 monthes of play under my belt. But there are changes I would like to see.

~the rat~

Red-Tide · Apr 02, 2007, 06:40 PM // 18:40

/signed

Henchies are an annoyance, I would much rather use the heroes I spent 100's of plat on(weapons, runes, etc...). I long for the day when I have total control over the party!

Prefectus · Apr 02, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

/signed even if we cant micro control,4-8 just to set builds ap and weps would be a god send

The Ernada · Apr 02, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Count me as /signed as well.

Yes this is a multiplayer but it doesnt mean it should exclude the option to play with all heroes by yourself. And an all-heroes option does not mean it excludes playing with people at other times.

Stop thinking that it has to be one extreme or another. You can play with people or play with heroes or you can play with both. Options are great arent they?

tyche7 · Apr 02, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

/signed

While I LOVE playing with other players...There are times when I would rather hench and it's MUCH more effective to bring a party of heroes which I can at least customize to my liking than to take hench's which is what I'm doing currently.

So I'm completely, totally, and 110% for this.